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A 25 rudder issues

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dkirsop
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Re: A 25 rudder issues

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I notice in your picture that a vertical crack exists at the top of the socket from which the skeg extends. This indicates that the skeg has been hit from below at some time and probably bent upwards. To prevent further damage you might need to make up a bending jig that does not transfer stress to this joint.
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Dieselram94
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Re: A 25 rudder issues

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WillieC wrote: Tue May 21, 2019 1:18 pm It looks a bit tall, but maybe not. Did you have the old one to measure? I do know the bushing is recessed on mine, not proud as yours shows. As to rudders, I doubt there are different models, but who knows. Not knowing how the skeg is affixed to the fiberglass, bending seems risky, and will change, if slightly, the angle of alignment to the rudder shaft. The WillieC suffered previous damage to that low point on the hull. I noticed it when stripping the bottom for paint. Lots of epoxy work in that area, but well done...hasn't sunk yet.
That’s certainly interesting, your bushing isn’t proud like mine. This part I bought from Albin motor and fashion in Sweden. I will post a picture (in the morning) of the part that was there when I bought the boat, it was a piece of cobbled together stainless junk. It measured something like 3/8” shorter than this new piece. I will definitely try to look at as many pictures online as I can find to see if most others have the bushing sitting flush instead of proud. It appears as if mine the bushing is completely seated though.
Did the WillieC have damage into the skeg area?
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Re: A 25 rudder issues

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dkirsop wrote: Tue May 21, 2019 3:24 pm I notice in your picture that a vertical crack exists at the top of the socket from which the skeg extends. This indicates that the skeg has been hit from below at some time and probably bent upwards. To prevent further damage you might need to make up a bending jig that does not transfer stress to this joint.
It’s definitely cracked, I wasn’t sure if it was a result of a impact from below in its past or from a previous owner forcing the skeg downward trying to get the rudder out of the boat. I had to cut the old repair apart to get it apart. I think your probably right though, and it is from a impact. Plan to grind out a v shape along the crack, and start by pouring thickened epoxy into the crack, then wrapping it in fiberglass biaxial mat to reinforce it.
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Re: A 25 rudder issues

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Did the WillieC have damage into the skeg area?

I would have to say yes due to the different color of the bare hull beneath all the bottom paint. Also, where the skeg leaves the hull looks a bit odd. Fiberglass and stainless pipe are two different materials and don't take to fillets, which it appears somebody tried on the WillieC. I like your plan with the thickened epoxy and FG wrap, something that should have happened on ours. But it is holding up.
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Re: A 25 rudder issues

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Here is a picture of how it was repaired as I got it. This is a solid stainless bar slid into the skeg, no way to remove the pipe head piece so that’s why I had to cut it apart. New part slides in like the old repair but recreates the original design.
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