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Albin 25 Deluxe on a Boat Lift

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Albin 25 Deluxe on a Boat Lift

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Does anyone have any experience with a 25 Deluxe on a lift, trying to sort out the proper bunking. Thanks.
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Re: Albin 25 Deluxe on a Boat Lift

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Not sure what the question is. Are you trying to fit a trailer to it? I have a 3D CAD model of it and I also have line drawings I got from the marine history museum in Sweden.
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Re: Albin 25 Deluxe on a Boat Lift

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Thanks for your reply.

I have a lift that is rated at 7,000 pounds. I know from the configuration of the hull and the prop/rudder that I will need deeper bunks than those that are currently on the lift for the center console boat I keep there now. The Albin won't be here until next week but I wanted to get a head start as bunks have a lead time.

I also know that the center of gravity on the A25 must be near center to slightly forward of center which may allow the deepest part of the hull to start behind the rear cross support of the lift.

What measurements from my lift would be helpful?
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Re: Albin 25 Deluxe on a Boat Lift

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The key dimensions are where the bunks are in relation to the center line. Then its easy to make a cross section at that point. What kind of trailer do you have? Here is a drawing on a deluxe on trailer i did for a guy in Sweden and how mine is laying on the trailer. https://cad.onshape.com/documents/f4f8d ... 1cec4844f6
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Re: Albin 25 Deluxe on a Boat Lift

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The lift positions and center of gravity are shown in the handbook. https://www.albin25.eu/images/_download ... manual.pdf
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Re: Albin 25 Deluxe on a Boat Lift

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Thank you for all of this great information, it will be very helpful. I apologize for not being more clear, we are trying to properly bunk of 4 piling boat lift for our Albin 25. I am attaching photos of our existing lift with my 21' center console on it and a photo of the an empty lift this isn't ours. The bottom supports are 12' wide and 9' apart from front to back. The current bunks are 8" tall and 12 feet long. My guess is we would need to get taller bunks and maybe set them wider on the support? Can you tell from this information and these photos?
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First draft to get you an idea.. The hull need to lay in its normal position. If you lay it flat you risk water damage in the front. You could add a front bilge pump to deal with it.
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Re: Albin 25 Deluxe on a Boat Lift

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Drawing. Once you know what you like to do we can make specific bunk drawings with profiles for both sides. I'm thinking you need to have a flat bed at the center too. THe weight need to be on the keel


Another way that could work well to would be to make it more like a cradle the other way.
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Re: Albin 25 Deluxe on a Boat Lift

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This is of interest to me too. My trailer bunks extend almost the full length of the hull all the way to the transom. That makes it difficult to impossible to crane launch with a Travelift. I'm thinking of modifying the bunks this winter to provide space to run Travelift straps under the hull at the lift points. The lift points drawing is a big help. Thanks Ulf!
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Re: Albin 25 Deluxe on a Boat Lift

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As I understand these drawing which are so appreciated, I have a financial aptitude not engineering, I think the second option of a cradle might work best. The bunks will be deeper which was my initial, uneducated thought. Thank you.
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Re: Albin 25 Deluxe on a Boat Lift

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Let me model that up. How wide are your beams?
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Re: Albin 25 Deluxe on a Boat Lift

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This is a bit challenging... I don't have experience with lifts. Found this that looks pretty good

https://iqboatlifts.com/boat-lift-sling ... adle-lift/

Can you tell me the dimensions of the beams? Are they I-beams How wide and tall. Does the guide post work well? What brand and model is that lift? How do you typically get teh boat on and centered? Positioned fwd-aft?

My pre deluxe model is better than My deluxe model so I will use that. Its very hard to get lofting right on boats... Surface modeling is its on thing.. But the difference between deluxe and Lusalbin as the Swedes call it (liceAlbin.. as in slow as a lice... ) Don't ask.. But as you can see, the difference is all behind the rear beam.
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Lines-deLuxe1996_14_55_27a-x.jpg

I wonder if the right way is to make a U channel for the keep and then a Vee cradle in the front. The issue is that the bottom sweps up again after midship.
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Here is a rear view
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and a bottom view
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Re: Albin 25 Deluxe on a Boat Lift

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I will get you measurements and photos of my lift empty today. The lift manufacturer is Tide Tamer. Model #700-00. The current boat we pull on and left , then get off boat, lower lift and center/position by hand, then lift again. Thank you for all of your thought and time on this!
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Re: Albin 25 Deluxe on a Boat Lift

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My boat is coming here next week and we are trying to get some prep done on the slip where she will be until we get the lift worked out. Can you tell me the height from water line to rub rail? I have tried to scale it from some drawings and looks like 4' ish? Thanks you so much.
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Re: Albin 25 Deluxe on a Boat Lift

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Here you go. Its quite a bit higher in the front than the back
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